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At 11:21 AM 6/29/01 -0400, you wrote:>As for why the Mayan civilisation 
collapsed, both in Peruvian antiquity and the Classic period (9th C AD), I 
can tell you right now: it collapsed because of a series of intense El Nino 
events which altered the climate, caused rainfall and flooding and washed 
its agriculture away. There is now conclusive evdience from the climatic 
record about this. No doubt there was
a Malthusian crisis involved because of over-exploitation of farming, 
population pressure etc, but it's basically the climate.<

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There must have been something profoundly wrong with Mayan civilization 
(and its agricultural/water system) if a mere climate change -- an external 
shock -- led to its utter collapse. But some people on pen-l seem to have 
been portraying Mayan civilization as lacking any internal contradictions 
(unlike other class systems, it seems -- or didn't the Mayan system have 
classes?).

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CB: I agree with Jim's direction.  To say it was "climate" is extreme environmental 
determinism. There were many civilizations in close geographical proximity with the 
Mayan civilization at the same time that did not "collapse" at the same time. 

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