>--- Original Message ---
>From: James Lawler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: 4/3/02 3:48:42 PM
>
I am curious about the statistics cited by Cliff below from Sidney's
>previous message. I just read other statistics from an article
posted on
>another list, at  <http://www.pww.org/article/view/899>
>http://www.pww.org/article/view/899 Here a recent delegation
of the
>Communist Party USA to China was told that the "state-owned
sector" in
>1997 was over 75% of the economy. The impression is given that
this
>figure continues to be roughly valid. Was this misleading? Could
the
>state sector have dropped so drastically in such a short time?
>
>The article just posted on our list by Michel Pugliese (March
28,
>"China") states "Since 1998, 25 million workers have been laid
off from
>state companies, Li Rongrong, the country's economy minister,
said in
>Beijing on March 8." I don't see how that can imply a drop from
75% to
>37% of the economy.
>
>No doubt this has already been explained in one of our earlier
very
>informative messages on this topic. So excuse me if I need some
>repetition.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Jim Lawler
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Society for the Philosophical Study of Marxism Listserve
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cliff
DuRand
>Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:38 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Markets and Marx: Whither China?
>
>            For some time now I have been wanting to make some
points in
>the debate about markets and socialism as it relates to China.
 I
>apologize to Ed that I have not found the time until now to
weigh in on
>his side.
>            I look at the percentages Sidney Gluck cites: 33%
of China's
>gross national product produced by small private businesses,
30% by
>large joint stock companies, and 37% by state owned and collective
and
>village enterprises.  That shows an economic system that is
nearly
>equally divided between the petty bourgeoisie, capitalism, and
>socialism.  While the socialist sector still has a slight (but
declining
>edge), three decades ago it was 100% of the economy.
>
>
>

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