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From: "Carrol Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> I don't think this will wash. Inside a capitalist society it is
almost
> tautological that attorneys have a duty to serve their client's
> interests, and one cannot qualify tht without seriously
endangering the
> left, which desperately needs those few lawyers (and fewer  when
most
> needed) who will seriously defend leftist defendants.

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I see no harm being done by pointing out a trivial truth which is
part of the larger issue of whether the law can even be a vehicle
for advance left interests. If not, while it might be nice that
some lawyers do ably defend leftists, the problem of the
legitimacy of the law's connection to capitalism is at stake and
whether leftists should call for the severe attenuation if not
elimination of law as a mode of social regulation. Given that  the
latter most likely cannot happen without signficant bloodshed as
well as lots of lawyers making lots of money from the rise in
social antagonisms along the way; just what should a left critique
of the law encompass if leftists are to still be interested in
helping create a post-capitalist economic system? Is the law the
enemy or potential ally? If the law ultimately protects capitalism
and will use any and every means at it's disposal to prevent the
undermining of it's claim to legitimacy then what's the point?






>
> Moreover, given the nature of the whole criminal-justice system
in this
> nation, and the idiocy of much of the penal code, it is
essential for
> the working class as a whole (whether workers know it or not) to
have
> lawyers who will do their best to get off guilty clients.

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Yeah but that's a merely "defensive" position. If the law sees the
very attempt of the citizenry to undo the enormous complexity of
it's scale and scope of regulating behavior as something that
calls for an even more imperial mode of legalism then how do we
get out of the iron cage?




>
> Also protests against lawyers serving bad guys (corporations,
etc.) are
> incoherent. Within a capitalist system the bad guys are going to
have
> their interests served. It is sort of silly complaining about
the
> particular machinery that serves those interests, particularly
since
> that same machinery sometimes serves us.
>
> Carrol
>
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No they aren't. And no one is calling for complaining about the
machinery; rather how to get it to either change gears or shut
down. Simply think of the enlargement of the law over the course
of the 20th century. Shall we have the same rate of growth of the
law as a mode of social regulation over the course of the 21st?

Ian

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