At 09/07/02 20:00 +0000, you wrote:
>>It seems I'm not a market socialist after all, jks. Please forgive my >>treachery - I cannot abide the profit motive - I thought a market >>socialist believed in the market as a central means of determining >>economic development. My mistake. Will read the archives. >> >>Sé > >How can you run markets without a profit motive? jks It is common in most human societies that have ever existed to attempt to accumulate a surplus, but wouldn't Marx, strictly, say that a surplus is only profit under capitalist conditions of the private ownership of the means of production. At first sight in a technologically developed world, it might look the same but fundamentally and in subtle details it is not necessarily the same. Or is that just playing dialectical games with words, only necessary because of clinging with dogmatic obstinacy to the redundant concept of the law of value? Chris Burford
