Jim Devine: >It's a nice academic distinction, but it doesn't work in practice. How one >sets up a social organization of production affects how and what is >produced. The relations and forces of production are unified, >interpenetrate, and determine each others' character. So we can't separate >the "bad utopianism" (figuring out how to get people to work together) >from the "good utopianism" (figuring out how to save water, etc.) BTW, >several of the 19th century utopians were pro-environment (e.g., William >Morris).
Well, I see that you are declaring in favor of "socialism from below" for the millionth time on pen-l, so please excuse me if I don't respond to your points. I am much more interested in examining concrete issues such as the folly of the Green Revolution or the Narmada Dam. If and when you find yourself interested in such mundane matters, I will be happy to respond to you. Louis Proyect www.marxmail.org
