I would like to thank both Ravi & pbs for their time in reply. i) I may get back to you Ravi with more techno-specifics. ii) pbs: I understand when you say that the technical good advices, never seem to be 'possible' for the techno-faint-hearted! I count myself as in that category. iii) re the Palestinian thing: Indeed it is VERY worrying. They (whoever they are) have taken the names of several list-owners - including International Struggle ML (myself) & a bunch of others - all ML-ist (including one - horror of horrors - termed 'Stalinist') & used their list-owners as the perpetrators of some very vicious and prolific anti-Palestinian propaganda. iv) They even used the name of a (I think) a well known feminist, to disseminate a tract under her name, which was quite anti-Palestinian-women. I gather that that text did in fact originate in a real piece, that was originally signed by Andrea Dworkin. These tactics used are pretty clever - & for the technologically challenged somewhat difficult to deal with. v) Of course this raises the (now-old) red-herring of the extent to which e-mail/interent organising can substitute for real-world organising. Of course it cannot. Nor do the proponents of using it for progressive causes have any such illusions about it. Nonetheless, - for me at any rate, this little episode shows one limitation of virtual class war versus real world organising for class war. Cheers - & once more my thanks to Ravi & to pbs - I will probably be in touch shortly. Hari