While many of us might agree with Jim, we should address David more respectfully.
Response Jim C: I'm sorry, did I break some list protocol? This guy can make snotty passive/aggressive sarcasm (about fraud being not possible under socialism) and basically pimp a totally bullshit revisionist/myopic/mystified view of capitalism and fraud (a view that shelters/assumes away the real origins and nature of fraud under capitalism--system with so many victims) but I can't merely suggest that he "please" get real? Really. OK, from now on I'll be every so polite to these snotty passive/aggressive ideologues/polemicists no matter how snotty and passive/aggressive they get. Jim
