OTOH, although this is an interesting scientific question, it has
surprisingly few political implications.  Although there are differences of
opinion on how they work, the brute fact of the matter is that
antiretroviral drugs do in fact work for AIDS patients, and nothing else
does.  So for the time being the only important political question revolves
around preventing the global economic system from standing between the drugs
and the people who need them.

dd

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From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dmytri
Kleiner
Sent: 12 July 2004 18:01
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Subject: Re: US under fire at AIDS conference


On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:01:11AM -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:

> How can you defeat an alliance of Christian fundamentalists and the drug
companies?

This is off topic but:

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 "If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific
documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at
least with a high probability. There is no such document."

Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.


 "Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing
evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has
been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology."

Dr. Heinz Ludwig S�nger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and
Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, M�nchen.

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I am not a scientist, but statements like these make me wonder about the
whole AIDS thing.

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