Then you don't agree. Vietnam was outgunned. So was Cuba. This is a social struggle, not technical, not simply military.
Futile? Here, try this one, or two : Attention workers of Paris. This commune of yours is doomed. All resistance will be crushed. Surrender. We have artillery in position at every entrance to your city. Or this: Attention Jews of Warsaw, your uprising is futile. Do not resist. Sound promising? The bourgeoisie rarely have a moment's hesitation about deploying deadly force, and when they do it's only because they are afraid of losing, or have already lost, control of the battlefield. That's the hard cold fact. Modest, relatively, struggles for union organization have been, are met almost everywhere everytime by deadly force-- in the advanced countries as well as less-developed. That's another fact. Outgunned? so was Robert Williams. Big deal. We neither glorify nor reject armed struggle. It's a tactic. But armed struggle shouldn't be the issue here-- it's an issue of power-- of seizing control of the social machinery-- not gently easing it out, or sending the bourgeoisie out to greener pastures. It's about class vs. class-- rulers vs. ruled. And the rulers, as a class, are not bought out by golden parachutes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmytri Kleiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Venture Communism > On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 12:14:53PM -0700, sartesian wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dmytri Kleiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Venture Communism > > > > I agree. But shooting back when you've got a slingshot and they have a > > apache helicopter is futile and playing into their hands. > > ______________ > > > > Come on comrade, take a look around. Same thing about slingshots and > > helicopters was said 40 years ago about Vietnam, Cuba-- today about > > Palestine, Iraq.. . etc. > > > > All crap. Armed struggle is imposed, not chosen. Just that simple. > > I agree that it is imposed not chosen, all I am saying is that it is > futile. We are outgunned.
