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At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
>of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not -
>raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and
>rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)...

Have you actually looked into all the lawsuits that the Nader
campaigns have filed?

Here are a couple of lawsuits (probably among many more) that the
Nader campaigns this year and in the part have filed, singly or
jointly with other parties:
the 2004 Texas General Election and all subsequent General Elections
in Texas, and the facts and circumstances relating thereto, are
illegal and unconstitutional, in that they are violative of the
rights of the Plaintiffs under the First and Fourteenth Amendments to
<blockquote>1. This is a civil action for declaratory and injunctive
relief arising under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and under 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
Plaintiffs challenge the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's requirement
<blockquote>Ohio had authority to list the name of presidential
candidate Ralph Nader on the November 2000 ballot without his Green
Party affiliation, a federal appeals court ruled yesterday.
Ohio officials said the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling
upholds the state's position that it has authority to impose
reasonable requirements for ballot listings to ensure orderly, fair
elections.
The Green Party and Nader had argued that keeping the party's
designation off the ballot violated their constitutional rights of
free speech, free association and equal protection of law.
As a matter of fact, in his writing, Nader indicted violations of the
equal protection clause as early as in 1958 in the context of noting
the court's turning a blind eye to them:
The Illinois law was challenged by the Progressive Party just before
the 1948 elections. The case reached the U.S. Supreme Court where it
was argued that the statute's disproportionate favoring of rural
counties violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
In a 6-3 decision, the court disagreed and upheld the law. Writing
the dissent, Justice Douglas stated: "The notion that one group can
be granted greater voting strength than another is hostile to our
standards for popular representative government." He was referring to
the fact that 25,000 signatures from 50 of the least populous
counties could form a new party while the same number from 49
counties with 87 percent of the registered voters could not. . . .
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stand corrected re. reference to 14th amendment, although none of above addresses 
point i was making, they're all *within* states, not *among* them..

texas example is about differential filing deadlines between parties and independent 
candidates in texas, not differential deadlines throughout states...

penn example is about absence of waiver for filing fee in penn (other states make 
allowance for such, thus, to not do so could be determined 'unreasonable' under 83 
supreme court decision

btw: 83 supreme court decision allows for differential definition of 
'reasonableness'...

ohio example is about differential number of petition signatures needed in ohio, party 
vs independent candidate...

re. illinois example in 58 nader co-authored article, douglas dissent refers to 
differential number of signatures among state's counties, interestingly, this does 
begin to get at my point if douglass critique is applied *among* the states, similar 
to warren's 64 majority opinion in _reynolds v sims_ (case from alabama, if memory 
serves correctly)
holding that one-person one-vote apportionment principle applied to state senates as 
well as to state lower-houses, if so, similar *principle* could also apply to u.s. 
senate irrespective of 1787 constitutional arrangement, same for douglass dissent if 
one considers differential numbers in various states (which could be addressed with 
use of
percentage since states do have different size populations)...

many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787 constitutional language 
assigning each state authority to determine times, places, manner of holding 
elections...


>Sorry, I meant to write the Liberty Party.  "Although its vote never
>exceeded 3% of the votes cast in a presidential election, the party
>did further political abolitionism. In closely contested state and
>local elections, the Liberty party often held the balance of power,
>sometimes causing major party candidates to take advanced antislavery
>positions in a bid for its support" (Kinley J. Brauer, "Liberty
>Party," Encyclopedia Americana).  More importantly, many Libertymen
>eventually joined with anti-slavery factions of Whigs and Democrats
>to form the Free Soil Party, many of whose former members would later
>form the core of the Republican Party. Only out of many seeming
>failures can a movement grow -- in fact, there is no way people can
>gain political experience except by trying, failing, and trying again
>over at least several decades.
Yoshie
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is lesson of above that 'minor parties' offer 'safety valve' or 'protest' option whose 
issue/s
will, at some juncture perhaps, be picked up by major party/ies (and usually softened 
in some ways) if they have resonance...   michael hoover 
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