Apologies.  I prematurely sent a long stream-of-consciousness reply to
ravi's objections to my post.  As I re-read it, I don't make it very
clear how I respond to his arguments.  Unfortunately, I can't improve
on that now.

Re. Michael Smith's complain about the puerility of our discussions
here: Fortunately, he has a terrific opportunity to elevate the level
of our discussions.  He can lead us by example.
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