Julio Huato wrote:

I don't think so.

One thing is (informational) *efficiency* and another thing is
*correctness*.  That asset prices incorporate all available
information means that the prices (or, rather, the processing
mechanism that churns out those prices) is efficient.  Whether an
efficient (or efficiently generated) price turns out to be correct or
not is something that can only be established ex post.

This, of course, leads to the key question splitting Keynesians from
Classicals: Do correct asset prices exist independently of the pricing
mechanism itself (financial markets)?  Keynes (GT, 12) argues
compelling that they don't.  I say it doesn't matter.  I'm not moved
by Keynes appeal to convention (the ergodic assumption).

It's a deux ex machina.  Where do conventions come from?  Do they
adjust over time?  If they do, how?  Just to spell out a bit more of
what is on my mind: the Bayesian interpretation of uncertainty is
broad enough to incorporate Keynesian conventions as elements in a
probability space and -- thus -- define fairly operational statistical
procedures to update the Keynesian conventions.

By appealing to convention, Keynes admits that the self-referential
character of social uncertainty (what Soros calls "reflexivity")
doesn't sink people into nihilism and paralysis.  At least not all
people all the time.  For the most part, most people still lead their
lives and make their choices.  In this sense, I'd say, the subjective
interpretation of probability is explicitly Hegelian and Marxian.

But the underpinning hypothesis is that the expectations behind the behaviour that determines prices in these markets can be and are "correctly" formed incorporating all available information so that in this sense "financial markets always price assets correctly".

Whether or not Skidelsky is using "correctly" is this defensible sense has, however, nothing to do with whether or not Keynes's theory of financial markets is a better theory than the EMH.

Keynes's forecasting "conventions", as the texts I've just quoted demonstrate, are understood by him to be expressions of irrationality, of the particular "psychopathology" that he assumes dominates behaviour in financial markets. They, like the "hoarding" of money based on a "feeling about money" that "is itself conventional or instinctive", are instinctively anchored irrational means of avoiding anxiety.

Keynes claims the irrationality involved is understandable and predictable by those not themselves subject to it. This makes possible rational "speculation" where "speculation" is defined as "the activity of forecasting the psychology of the market." Keynes's own investment strategy was rational "speculation" in this sense.

Rational prediction here is understood in terms of a philosophy of probability best elaborated by Whitehead. The ontological premises on which this philosophy is based have much in common with the ontological premises of Hegel and Marx.

These premises are also the basis of Keynes's judgement that the long run yields of capital assets are frequently "uncertain" in his particular sense so that no rational basis is available for predicting them. The parallel with Hegel is found in Hegel's claim, repeated and endorsed by Alfred Marshall, that:

"Rulers, Statesmen, Nations, are wont to be emphatically commended to the teaching which experience offers in history. But what experience and history teach is this – that peoples and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it. Each period is involved in such peculiar circumstances, exhibits a condition of things so strictly idiosyncratic, that its conduct must be regulated by considerations connected with itself, and itself alone. Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help. It is useless to revert to similar circumstances in the Past. The pallid shades of memory struggle in vain with the life and freedom of the Present. Looked at in this light, nothing can be shallower than the oft-repeated appeal to Greek and Roman examples during the French Revolution. Nothing is more diverse than the genius of those nations and that of our times."
<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hi/history2.htm>

What you say about Keynes's "conventions" above doesn't "get these facts right".

Ted











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