Cb says "As a side note, there is nothing dictatorial about Presidents
having  more than one term, especially when a vote of  the People changes
the Constitution to allow it."

There is a very good reason why, under the current state of exception. Which
means that   much of the governing takes effect through Presidential
decrees, especially in Latin America,  that any President should be allowed
more than two terms.  The fact is that populism is the quick-sand upon which
some constitutions have and are being changed so that the term limitations
are extinguished. If at the same time the constitutions were changed to
ensure that governance would not be through Presidential Decree then this
would change the political effects of these long terms in office.  But this
has not been done.  Therefore the system of checks and balances through
these constitutional changes, even though supported through the principle of
popular sovereignty,  is severely diminished. The onus is on  Presidents to
ensure this balance and Presidents are to be held to a higher level of
accountability,  especially if the constitutional changes translate in to
the prolongation of their powers.

This is not to say that a constitutional consultations are undesirable, they
should take place, throughout long periods in popular assemblies. In terms
of Honduras,  President Zelaya was in his right, as a citizen, which the
Honduran constitutional provides for, curiously however, it  precisely
interdicts this action to be initiated by the President, i.e. to open the
necessary legal steps for such a consultation, and there lays the crux of
his problem.  I have no idea whether he intended to protect the system of
checks and balances, but at the same time it appears he was about to make
drastic changes to systematic  political exclusion of underprivileged
citizens inherent in the current constitution.

nchamah


On 11/08/09 4:08 PM, "c b" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On the writer's notion of dictator-to-be, the Honduran events are
> causing rightwingers in Honduras and the US to expose their complete
> ignorance and disdain for the fundamentals of democracy.   The first
> principle of democracy is popular sovereignty, as in the _theory_ of
> the US Constitution by which all power derives from "We, the People"
> as a whole.  For Honduran President Zelaya to propose a Constitutional
> Convention and vote of the whole Honduran People on their Constitution
> is the most democratic , anti-dictatorial proposal he could make..
> There can be nothing more democratic than a vote of the whole People
> on the fundamental law of the land.
> 
> As a side note, there is nothing dictatorial about Presidents having
> more than one term, especially when a vote of  the People changes the
> Constitution to allow it. Does the writer think that the US Presidents
> who have had second terms are dictators ?  The rightwing objections to
> the wave of Constitutional changes made by the Peoples of several
> nations in South and Central America expose these rightwingers to the
> world as anti-democrats and the true would be dictators
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