Michael writes:

>> I guess that anything that does not come out full bore one way or
>> another is a cop out.  Test scores are a non-subjective measure.  So
>> too would be height or weight.  All three are fairly meaningless.

I don't see how you can say that test scores are meaningless.  It was on this 
very point that the LA union lost credibility among the general public when the 
LA Times published test scores by teacher recently.

>> I have no reason to believe that principals would be fairer or better
>> judges than the teachers.  I await your response, which will be the
>> last word on the subject.  I have papers to grade.

Again, this is not a teacher/principal issue.  This a generalized 
organizational issue.  My view is that we should strive to place authority for 
any specific decision  at an institutional level based upon the correlating 
incentives of the position.  In a private market world, if teachers formed a 
school and made collective employment decisions, we would not be having this 
discussion, as the fortunes of the teachers would be directly tied to their 
collective decisions.  But we live in public run and funded school world, where 
the union exists precisely to protect its members from market forces (i.e. the 
need to attract students and produce a competitive schooling product).  If you 
ask the teachers union how to make employment and salary decisions, you get the 
seniority answer, which has absolutely no correlation with student or school 
performance (contra Mr. Meeropol).  While I would never make the argument that 
managers are infallible, and the incentive structure for adminin!
 istrators in our public school system leaves a lot to be desired, I believe 
managers are better situated and incentivized than the teachers to make these 
decisions.

BTW, if student performance is not a good evaluator for teacher performance, do 
you feel the same about its usefullness for student performance? If peer review 
works for teachers, why not use it for students?  It will at least give you 
more time to argue with me.

David Shemano


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