>David B. Shemano
>
>Let me now ask you a question.  You want a non-market driven
>educational system.  Non-market models are based upon the
>belief that [ the usual strawman type of argument ] 

David,
The non-market model worked quite well 50 years ago where I grew up.  The
administrators and teachers weren't supermen.  Nowadays, everything is going
to hell because capitalism itself is destroying the moral and physical
prerequisites for its own existence.

I was trying to point out that your belief that the market model can save
our education system is misplaced.  Capitalism worked well for hundreds of
years as a system of depleting excess natural resources -- but capitalism
cannot survive peak oil. Here is a tiny pdf which explains why that is so
http://jayhanson.us/SynopsisPics.pdf

I would guess that almost no one on this list understands that capitalism is
over because they were taught that "money" was the limiting variable in
economic development (and education systems). After peak oil, the limiting
variable is no longer "money" -- it's "net energy."  Here is a paper I wrote
about it ten years ago http://dieoff.org/page175.htm

The energy available for economic development will shrink for many decades.
This means that government will have to ration necessities -- including
education.  The good news is that the market system is horribly
"inefficient" (engineering definition) and resource use can be reduced a
great deal http://jayhanson.us/america.htm

Jay

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