On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
...They [the Stalinist leadership] somehow inspired their
army that surrounded armies did not do what surrounded armies are supposed
to do: surrender....

This is precisely 180 degrees from the truth. In July-August 1941 huge Russian armies, numbering in the millions, found themselves surrounded--and quickly surrendered. They were the only Russian armies in that position during the whole war. However, there was an army that found itself surrounded in a hopeless position but fought on heroically for months until its commander summoned up the courage to defy the orders of his leader and do what he was supposed to do--surrender. I speak, of course, of the Wehrmacht
at Stalingrad and General von Paulus.

This is *not* to be explained by the fact that Hitler in the 1930s granted those Germans not in his concentration camps social services vastly better than those that Stalin
granted to those Russians not in his (vastly larger) slave-labor camps.


Shane Mage

"This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
 always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
 kindling in measures and going out in measures."

 Herakleitos of Ephesos





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