"You have to ask yourself, how does the universe after the Big Bang
learn to incorporate this mathematical sequence into so many parts of
itself, from the shape of DNA to spiral galaxies?"

You think the math came first?

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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>       anti-labor leftist? (Carrol Cox)
>    2. Re: Shorris on Strauss (William Quimby)
>    3. Re: Shorris on Strauss (Louis Proyect)
>    4. Death of Ward Morehouse (Eugene Coyle)
>    5. An Excellent Visualization of The Fibonacci Sequence      Pattern
>       In Nature. (c b)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:32:59 -0500
> From: "Carrol Cox" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] blog psot: are you now or have you ever been an
>         anti-labor leftist?
> To: "'Progressive Economics'" <[email protected]>
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> Jim Devine:
>
> It's wrong to talk about unions without putting them into context, i.e.,
> their relations with capitalist management. To some extent, all labor
> unions
> have to act as special-interest lobbyists (usually for the industry they're
> in). It's a survival strategy for dealing with management's attacks (or
> even
> to ally with management). The Truman-McCarthy era shoved unions away from
> anything but this kind of political strategy, as Taft-Hartley was imposed
> and commies were purged, etc.
>
> In a period like the one we're living in, the percentage of craft unions in
> total membership rises because they're better at such strategies. The
> public-sector unions are currently under severe attack as people like Scott
> Walker try to reduce public-sector unionism to the situation of non-craft
> unions in the private sector (i.e., dying).
>
> Labor unions are hardly the only enablers of financiers. Others include
> almost all governments (state, local, federal) in the US and public pension
> plans. Yet more include those who work in the finance industry.
>
>         --------
>
> The basis for severe criticism of the current labor unions is the same as
> the basis for criticism of the DP, of "left" groups that support the DP, of
> NOW, and of the NAACP.
>
> Wisconsin and the Occupations that followed it have opened up the
> possibility of "rebuilding the left" (Michael Y) The kind of clinging to
> the
> 'established' labor unions or muffling one's criticism of "labor" is in
> practice an attack, and a serious attack, on all those activities and
> activists (including those 'in' the established unions) which are carrying
> forward this opening up of hope. Henwood & Yates in this case speak for
> everything that is promising in current left activity.
>
> Carrol
>
> P.S. Why doesn't the Microsoft spell check have "Henwood" in its
> dictionary?
> ;-)
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:32:41 -0700
> From: William Quimby <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Shorris on Strauss
> To: Progressive Economics <[email protected]>
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> Apropos of very little, I took a seminar from Jaffa when he was at Ohio
> State - on Plato's The Republic. We read THE FIRST 6 PAGES - that's all.
> Everything we needed to know about Justice, he said, was there.
>
> Jaffa was an avid supporter of Goldwater, of course.
>
> - Bill
>
> On 07/05/2012 8:16 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
>
> > I've been fascinated by the Straussians for a long time, partly
> > because one of the group of guys I hung around with in college (Yale)
> > was the son of a Straussian (or something like that) named Harry
> > Jaffa (at Claremont, I believe). My acquaintance encouraged me to
> > take a political theory course with a Straussian named Thomas Pangle.
> > So I did. Being an undergraduate, I really didn't get much out of
> > that course, except a sense that the professor thought there were
> > hidden meanings in Plato, Aristotle, etc., all the way up to
> > Machiavelli.
> >
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:38:43 -0400
> From: Louis Proyect <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Shorris on Strauss
> To: Progressive Economics <[email protected]>
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> On 7/5/12 11:32 PM, William Quimby wrote:
> > Apropos of very little, I took a seminar from Jaffa when he was at Ohio
> > State - on Plato's The Republic. We read THE FIRST 6 PAGES - that's all.
> > Everything we needed to know about Justice, he said, was there.
> >
> > Jaffa was an avid supporter of Goldwater, of course.
> >
>
> When I was at the New School in 1965-1967 studying philosophy mainly as
> a way of staying out of the army, I took a class on Plato with Seth
> Benardete, one of Leo Strauss's main acolytes. I really had no idea what
> his point was but I wish I knew back then what I know now. I'd have
> given him hell.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 10:59:13 -0700
> From: Eugene Coyle <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Pen-l] Death of Ward Morehouse
> To: Pen-l Pen-L <[email protected]>
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> The organization, POCLAD, has shared the sad news of the death of Ward
> Morehouse.
>
> Ward Morehouse is perhaps best known for his focus on the Bhopal chemical
> disaster, an issue he kept alive until his death.
>
> He was briefly at the URPE summer camp in 2010 -- perhaps he went often.
>
> Morehouse was a founder, along with Richard Grossman, of POCLAD, the
> organization that revived the issue of corporate personhood with serious
> reseach.
>
> The POCLAD announcement is at
> http://poclad.org/BWA/2012/BWA_2012_July.html
>
> Gene
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> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:07:47 -0700
> From: c b <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Pen-l] An Excellent Visualization of The Fibonacci Sequence
>         Pattern In Nature.
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> Let the Revolution Begin. Peacefully of Course.
> An Excellent Visualization of The Fibonacci Sequence Pattern In Nature.
>
> You have to ask yourself, how does the universe after the Big Bang
> learn to incorporate this mathematical sequence into so many parts of
> itself, from the shape of DNA to spiral galaxies?
>
> Nature by Numbers
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