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On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote: > also, doesn't the nervousness about the imminent walk on the "hot > coals" create a layer of sweat around one's feet? > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Gar Lipow <[email protected]> wrote: >> It is interesting that Robbins could not even run the old scam right. >> Firewalking is one of the oldest scams in the world, and it works via >> physics rather than woo woo. It is coal ash walking rather than firewalking. >> The reason people don't get burnt is >> >> A) Coal are allowed to cool down to a temperature where they are hot but >> not as hot as fire. >> >> B) Coal is light and does not have great thermal conductivity >> >> C) The coal has been allowed to burn down to the point where a layer of ash >> insulated feet from the coal >> >> D) People walk briskly so that feet are not in contact with the ash for very >> long. This last is critical. >> >> Oh - to make the trick at all impressive, it is always done in the dark so >> that the glow of the coal shows through the layer of ash. >> >> I once took part in firewalking when attending a magic show. No pretense it >> was not a trick other than the same sort of patter used when pulling flowers >> out of a wand. Quite honestly, knowing the risks of something going wrong >> (which I did not at the time) I probably would just watch today. >> >> A pretty cromulent explanation along with some of the physics can be found >> on Wikipedia. Though it misses the insulating property of ash. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewalking >> >> You would think someone running such a classic scam would take precautions >> to make sure it was done right. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> from SLATE: >>> 21 Treated for Burns After Motivational Hot-Coal Walk >>> >>> Things didn't go as planned for everyone at a recent Tony Robbins >>> self-improvement seminar. >>> >>> By Cindy Ok | Posted Monday, July 23, 2012, at 11:10 AM ET >>> >>> If you play with fire, you're gonna get burned, as the saying goes. So >>> when thousands of people walk on superheated coals, maybe it shouldn't >>> come as a shock when more than 20 end up seeking medical treatment. >>> >>> The San Jose Mercury News reports that at least 21 people were treated >>> for burn injuries last week after a late-night firewalking event on >>> the first day of a Tony Robbins seminar at the San Jose Convention >>> Center. Several suffered second- and third-degree burns, including at >>> least three who went to the hospital. >>> >>> Robbins’ four-day "Unleash the Power Within" motivational seminar drew >>> some 6,000 attendants. Participants who chose to do the firewalk >>> walked across 10 feet or so of hot coals resting on grass in the >>> nearby park late Thursday night. The New York Times reports that >>> thousands of those on hand took part in the walk and, despite the >>> injuries, few seemed to have any regrets. >>> >>> "It transformed people’s lives in a single night," Carolynn Graves, a >>> 50-year-old real estate agent from Toronto who crossed the coals >>> without injury, told the paper. "It’s a metaphor for facing your fears >>> and accomplishing your goals." >>> >>> The self-help expert has praised the activity as a way to conquer >>> fears, and his coaching company has stressed it has safely provided >>> the experience for more than three decades. A representative of the >>> local fire department, meanwhile, said it discourages people from >>> walking on hot coals. >>> -- >>> Jim Devine / If you're going to support the lesser of two evils, you >>> should at least know the nature of that evil. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pen-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Facebook: Gar Lipow Twitter: GarLipow >> Solving the Climate Crisis web page: SolvingTheClimateCrisis.com >> Grist Blog: http://grist.org/author/gar-lipow/ >> Online technical reference: http://www.nohairshirts.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> > > > > -- > Jim Devine / If you're going to support the lesser of two evils, you > should at least know the nature of that evil. > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321 fax 530 898 5901 http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
