Raghu: Are we just arguing about choice of words? Is, say, "slavery" also an
abstraction? Is it incorrect to think that slavery is morally wrong?

The proposition makes no sense. Yes, slavery is an abstraction and calling
it moral or immoral is non-sense; it's incoherent.

Why do you think immorality is bad? What is the basis of morality? 

Or, why is exploitation immoral? What are your grounds for this judgment? It
is a relationship, a relationship that exists behind the backs as it were of
those whose actions instance it. They have no choice, and damning them does
not damn the relationship, which is what needs to be destroyed. (End the
Wages System; and that can only be done by the self-liquidation of the
Proletariat.

Carrol

P.S. As Tamas says, it's hard to be a Marxists:  " It is emotionally and
intellectually difficult to be a Marxist since it goes against the grain of
moral indignation which is, of course, the main reason people become
socialists."

But it is _not_ difficult, _after_ becoming socialist, to transcend that
biographical fact. "Now that my ladder's gone / I must like down where all
the ladders start / In the foul rag and bone shop of the heart." My premise
is the necessity to destroy capitalism. Bourgeois morality (and the phrase
is redundant, there is no other kind) gets in the way of building a movement
for democracy (i.e., socialism).




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