before we discuss whether this phenemonon is observable in the data we
have to get definitions down first.


I find it amazing that everyone can blather on about the tendency for
the rate of profit to fall without acknowledging that Marx explicitly
said that his was a simple model that would need disaggregating into
rent, unproductive labor, profit to enterprise, government . "That the
fall of the rate of profit can further be delayed by the omission of
existing deductions from profit, e.g. by a lowering of taxes,
reduction of ground rent etc., is actually not our concern here,
although of importance in practice, for these are themselves portions
of the profit under another name, and are appropriated by persons
other than the capitalists themselves"
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/grundrisse/ch15.htm

further this profit must be divided by the last monetary price paid
for capital ie non-labor inputs and labor inputs (or a real price
measured in the unit of account. in other words, if the capitalist
exchanged his product for a machine you would take the exchange value
of that product in another context and measure that against the
machine to get it's monetary price. this only applies in a generally
capitalist economy)

any discussion of the tendency for the rate of profit to fall that
doesn't acknowledge these elements isn't useful. It should also be
noted that any claim about effects emanating from FROP should be taken
with large gobs of salt since most of those claims implicitly assume
the fall in the profit rate impacts profit to enterprise and not one
of the other "portions of the profit under another name".
-- 
-Nathan Tankus
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