"Jim Devine" <[email protected]> wrote: 

> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Of course, that report isn't the whole story. The rate of surplus value is 
> > what we want to know 

> > and that surplus value not only includes profits to the employer, but also 
> > includes taxes and rents< 

> Wouldn't that be taxes _net of_ the "social wage," i.e., services 
> provided to the working class by the state. So it would be social 
> security taxes ("contributions") minus social security benefits, etc. 

The surplus value just isn't in the control of the worker. Surplus value 
dedicated to 
SS taxes, health care, education, welfare may be a good thing. Taxes used for 
military 
purposes may not be a good thing. 

> > Shouldn't one of the socialist goals be to reduce the rate of surplus 
> > value? < 

> I don't see how pointing to real-world evidence of a shrinking share 
> of national income going to labor contradicts this goal. 

I was just pointing out that capital isn't the only thing getting surplus value 
because 
landlords, patent holders, and the government also get an appreciable share. 


-- 
Ron 


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