> 
CG:  I don't think the comments so far reflect an understanding of why this
NSA
> surveillance is important to stop. The ACLU seems to get it.

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I assume you have joined or organized a local group to mobilize mass
protest? Nothing anyone _says_ outside such a context indicates concern.

The problem is that if the popular power existed to stop surveillance there
would also be the power to demand and achieve the release of Manning &
Mumia. That power does not exist, and probably cannot at this time be
generated, for a number of reasons. One is that the people who _might_ have
created it embryonically have instead been cheering for the Democrats. Or
merely writing blog posts or e-list posts grouching at the way things are.

That said, I agree that the surveillance is a manifestation of the death of
bourgeois democracy in the U.S.  Our local efforts in Bloomington/Normal
over the last 8 months to mobilize opposition to the growing repressive
power of the state have not met with any success. But it is necessary to
continue or initiate such efforts.

Carrol



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