What I thought. Your critique of the FTT has nothing to do with the size of
the tax and instead opposition to it.  Leaving aside your critique of Tobin
(did anyone every claim he was not pro-capitalist) your complaint is that
it would stabilize the system! Yes it would! Not a great deal, but a bit. A
small sales tax (less than 1%)  on the sale of stocks and bonds and other
financial instruments would reduce leverage  (gambling with other peoples
money), bubbles (where paper assets sell far above their underlying
 bubble) and volatility - where prices of such assets rise to higher peaks
than otherwise and fall to lower lows.  Such a Robin Hood tax would
eliminate none of these things but would reduce them. And  every one of
these things hits working class and middle class people far more than it
hits the rich.

And unlike many Wonkish things it can be explained in a sentence or two.
People have no trouble understanding that just as they pay a few cent in a
sales tax when they buy a pair of socks, the rich guy who buys stocks and
bonds and weird derivatives should have to pay a bit. And they have no
problem understanding that when such financial instruments are traded
hundreds or even thousands of times the trouble that they can cause is
multiplied compared to someone buying and  holding them. :We have a set of
gears that people tend to get caught by, and ground up in., Throwing a
little sand in those gears so they can't move quite so fast  and there is a
little more time to doge is a good thing.  Yes, the ultimate goal is
replace those gears with something that does not grind our bones to make
the bankers' bread. . But a demand  for sand in the gears, buys us a little
time and also is a great way of pointing out where those gears are and who
owns them.

There is no telling what demands will be the basis for a popular movement
until it happens. But a Robin Hood sales tax on financial transactions is
certainly a candidate to be one of those demands.  Plus it counts as a
progressive tax in the classic sense alongside income and wealth taes. The
richer you are the more you pay, both in absolute terms, and as a percent
of income. Most of the working class (especially the poor) will never buy a
single financial instrument. Prosperous workers and the middle classes
won't buy many, and are better off not churning their assets constantly. It
is only capitalists (and even then big capitalist more than small) who can
will buy high volumes of financial instruments and churn them constantly


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Gar Lipow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The proposal uses fairly standard percentages recommended by economists.
> > The revenue is a happy side effect. The main point of the tax is to
> reduce
> > leverage, bubbles and to some extent volatility. If you don't agree that
> a
> > financial transaction tax is a worthwhile way to accomplish those goals
> then
> > say so. But I can't see how one can intellectually support the idea of
> such a
> > tax, but see the size as too large. In any theory in which a transaction
> tax is
> > a source of stability rather than merely a means of raising revenue, the
> size
> > if the proposed tax is on the conservative end of what is normally
> proposed for that purpose.
>
> http://www.marxist.com/Europe-old/tobin_tax_and_ATTAC_400.html
> has a Marxist analysis of the tax.
>
> There are better approaches to taxation than a FTT.
>
> --
>    Ron
>
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