On Jul 17, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Paul Zarembka <[email protected]> wrote:
> Exactly correct, Marv, and I would have been voting with you. > > We could also add Costas Lapavitsas's explanation provided here: > http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14278 > > > and include the entire Die Linke bloc in the German parliament. Also, more tellingly, the majority of the Syriza central committee. I have to think the vast majority of those on this list and what we know as the international left would have voted against further austerity. If I thought otherwise, or if i agreed with the troika and discredited Greek opposition that there was no alternative, and that it was consequently necessary to turn against the referendum result and the program on which Syriza took office, I’d no longer see any objective reason to associate myself with the left. > >> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:41:08 -0400 >> From: Marv Gandall >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Louis Proyect >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> On 7/16/15 3:19 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>>> Louis has made much of the time factor in introducing and >>>> >>>> >> >>>> distributing a new currency. I?m not clear as to what precisely he?s >>>> >>>> >> >>>> referring to when he asserts there are years of complicated computer >>>> >>>> >> >>>> programming required to implement the change. >>>> >>> > >>> > >>> I recommend that you look at the comments thread under my article at >>> >>> > >>> Naked Capitalism for anything posted by me, Yves Smith, Nathan Tankus >>> >>> > >>> and someone named Clive. >>> >> Grexit is for tomorrow. It will very likely be forced on the Greeks, no >> matter what you, Nathan, Yves, and Clive think about it. So the debate about >> its effects is largely academic at this point. We?ll have the opportunity to >> test how technically difficult it will be to partially or wholly reintroduce >> the drachma in real life when the the time comes. >> >> The immediate issue facing Syriza was whether to accept or reject the new >> round of cuts, regressive tax increases, deregulation, and privatization >> demanded by its creditors. >> >> Were I in the Greek parliament last night, I would without hesitation have >> stood with Konstantopoulou, Lafazanis, Stratoulis, and - to his credit - >> Varoufakis, as well as the other three dozen Syriza lawmakers in voting >> against these additional hardships the government agreed to impose on those >> it purports to represent. >> >> The logic of your position, and that of Panitch, Gindin, and Henwood, would >> have seen you stand with the majority of Syriza MPs and minority of central >> committee members who voted - ?with deep regret? or otherwise - for the >> troika?s austerity program, in violation of both the Syriza program and the >> July 5th referendum result. >> >> At the end of the day, this is what this discussion has really been about. >> > > -- > ==== Research in Political Economy (since 1977) | Editor's webpage > Sraffa and Althusser Reconsidered; Neoliberalism Advancing (2014) > Contradictions: Finance, Greed, and Labor Unequally Paid (2013) > Revitalizing Marxist Theory for Today's Capitalism (2011), with R.Desai > The Hidden History of 9-11 (2nd ed., Seven Stories Press) > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
