On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > A mildly interesting debate between raghu & the position Joe seems to > take in his subject line. But for me the really interesting aspect is > thelight thrown on the meaningless ness of citations to sources without > any argument by the poster. That is, Joe's original post was ridiculous > simply because Joe himself was really totally absent. No discussion can > follow from naked cites or links. Their very existence is evidence of the > looming death of e-lists as such. >
Open e-lists like PEN-L are becoming quaint relics and are being rapidly replaced by proprietary and monetized social spaces like Facebook. Very soon, only those of us who refuse to use Facebook will be left here. In the meantime, I agree that links without commentary are not very interesting on forums like PEN-L. To be fair to Joseph, he did provide a well-chosen excerpt which can be a good stand-in for original commentary. -raghu. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of raghu > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:26 AM > To: Progressive Economics > Subject: Re: [Pen-l] The Teen Who Exposed a Professor's Myth > > A well-credentialed academic historian makes ridiculous and poorly > researched claims which became widely accepted by professional historians, > until a little girl came along and with some basic research totally refuted > his thesis. > > A remarkable case of the little girl who cried "the emperor has no > clothes"? Well, not really. > > > The more nuanced version of this story is: a scholar exaggerates his > thesis and ended up being embarrassed when his more outrageous claims were > easily disproved. > > It is clear that this scholar was always met with skepticism from other > experts, but was just not influential enough or important enough for anyone > to formally engage with, until this high schooler came along and did the > job. > > A feel-good story perhaps, but not really not much more than that here. > -raghu. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Joseph Catron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > LOL academic publishing: > > "Rebecca Fried had no intention of preserving the record of a > persecuted people whose strife was ready to be permanently written > off > in the eyes of history as exaggerated, imagined, or even invented. > > "That's because Rebecca was too busy trying to get through the 8th > grade ..." > > http://thebea.st/1IMMW8v > > -- > "Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure > mægen lytlað." >
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