On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Charlie <[email protected]> wrote:
> But what is the relevance of whether PEN-L members are mostly white > (whether that is actually the case or not)? "whether that is actually the case or not"? Are you really that blind, or are you just trying to be coy? I am willing to bet you $1 - or its equivalent in your favorite cyber-currency) that it is indeed actually the case. Look, my remark was a cheap shot, I will admit that, but a considered one. I fully understood that I'd hurt some feelings and I really regret that because there are people on PEN-L who are among the most intelligent, fair-minded and well-intentioned that I know. But this discussion about the possible dysfunctions of a hypothetical future cashless society seems frivolous and out-of-touch in a way that is uncharacteristic. (Imagine instead an article which speculates about the ill effects of a future where the Internet allows everyone to telecommute and therefore there is no such thing as a workplace anymore. I am sure PEN-Lers will immediately pile on and heap scorn over how silly such an idea was. Is this one any better?) It is not a bad thing to be aware and appropriately humble about our own cognitive biases and limitations. > Gratuitous tagging by race, often ahead of income or class as in raghu's > example, is part of the replacement of class politics by identity politics > over the last forty years. Great, now you are borrowing the rhetoric of Bill O'Reilly. The idea that "identity politics" (what a sterile euphemism to use to describe the struggle of subjugated racial groups!) is somehow reducible to "class politics" is a silly fairy tale that some leftistslike to tell each other. -raghu.
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