In the sixties and somewhat also in the seventies the Left in Turkey had the similar camps, i.e. the national-democratic revolution vs. the socialist revolution. Obviously, the positions were justified on the grounds that there was still feudal relations of production, capitalism (specifically working class) was not ripe enough to fight for socialism, the national liberation war (1919-23)and what followed it couldn't be interpreted as a bourgeois democratic revolution, etc. etc. Moreover, the very presence of the USSR and China conflict provided an international context, reference and ideological support. It was a very consuming and in some ways futile debate (sometimes physical struggle!). Good old days!
Ahmet
michael a. lebowitz wrote:
I've heard the term stagism used mainly in the context of the position of the South Africa Communist Party position (at one point) that first comes the national-democratic revolution and then comes the socialist one. I'm not certain how prevalent this position still is-- eg., whether it's still held in the context of the uniting of white capital and emerging black capital in the new, enriched ANC. Maybe Patrick can advise? michael Michael A. Lebowitz Professor Emeritus Economics Department Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6
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