since I don't believe in the peak oil theory or that peak oil
represents the end of capitalism, we have to agree to disagree.

On 10/17/05, paul phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim, very good questions to which I have no definative answers -- except
> perhaps a tentative one to the first, dealing with globalized
> capitalism.  If Kunstler is correct, globalized capitalism will be one
> of the first casualties of the end of cheap oil.  In fact, all of the
> writers I have read on the subject make the point that (capitalist)
> markets can not deal with the challenges of the end of cheap energy or
> of global warming and that only governments can and must, even such Bush
> advisors as Hirsch. Kunstler takes particular aim at global corporations
> such as Walmart which he argues will disappear.  He gives no specific
> time table for this disappearance but following the logic of his
> argument, we are talking about perhaps 10 or 20 years after peak oil.
>     That, of course, does not rule out imperialism of an earlier,
> pre-industrial sort (e.g. Europe's colonization of North & South
> America) though I think that is much less likely because of the economic
> and political cost of suppressing insurgency (e.g. Iraq, Chechnya) given
> the small scale, low technology and cheapness of light weapons. (For
> example, Tito and the Yugoslav army managed to manufacture sufficient
> weapons in clandestine manufactories to hold off and eventually defeat
> countless, motorized divisions of the German army in Bosnia in the 2nd WW.)
>     Obviously, some form of world government will be necessary to
> prevent the kind of local resource/land wars typical in feudal Europe,
> warlord Asia, or tribal North America though, equally obviously, the
> current UN model would not suffice.
>
> Paul
>
> Jim Devine wrote:
>
> >Paul, how do localized governments -- which hopefully would have
> >governments subordinated democratically to the democratic will -- deal
> >with a globalized capitalism (i.e., imperialism)? without some sort of
> >democratically-controlled world government, how are wars between the
> >localities avoided?
> >
> >
>
>
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