I think context is needed to clarify this issue.

Petty criminals and even large drug lords aren't part of the bourgeoisie,
they are living on a fringe of society. Lumpenproletariat would correctly
describe most of them, as they are not able to work within "legitimate"
"productive" capitalist production.

Therefore trying to fit them into the logic of capitalist accumulation is a
lot of fun, but probably irrelevant.

Jason Mann


-----Original Message-----
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Davies
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:28 PM
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yes I see what you mean, but they're local, spatial monopolies.  What I was
trying (poorly) to say is that there isn't an overall tendency toward
concentration.

-----Original Message-----
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Devine
Sent: 24 March 2006 23:54
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DD writes: >Obviously, the managers of a successful criminal
enterprise can, if they launder them, invest their profits in the
legitimate economy, but that is not the same thing. In particular, it
appears to me as if there is no genuine accumulation in the criminal
economy, no tendency toward monopoly and no likelihood of
overproduction or underconsumption crises. Criminal gangs rise and
fall due to non-economic factors.<

But  criminal gangs usually involve monopoly. They monopolize the drug
trade (in a specific area), the usury market, illegal gambling &
prostitution, etc.

On 3/24/06, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He even mentions some illustrious members of this list.
>
>
http://d-squareddigest.blogspot.com/2006_03_19_d-squareddigest_archive.html#
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> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
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