> On 7/8/06, Walt Byars  wrote:
>>OK. Your reasoning is that in Marx, the value of a good is the labor
> socially necessary to reproduce it. So, the amount of labor socially
> necessary to reproduce a given act of concrete labor is the  laborer's
> labor power. Am I right? ... <
>
> I can't speak for Gil, but "a given act of concrete labor" isn't on
> the market -- it's not a commodity -- and thus doesn't have a value at
> all in the Marxian system. It's the labor-power which has a value.

Yeah, Jim, but that assumes some sort of incomplete contracting situation
so that capitalists can't contract for specific labor services.  But I
take Walt's point to be:  what if they can, as in the case where firms
engage outside contractors to perform specific tasks, and pay them if and
only if those specific tasks are performed?  In that case, what would be
the value of the services thus transacted?  That said, I agree with you it
isn't the *labor* that's transacted for, even in this case--it's the
concrete labor service, i.e. the thing *accomplished* by the labor.  But
Walt's question still arises with this amendment.

Gil

>
> (To my mind, the idea of setting the value of labor-power equal to the
> labor necessary to reproduce it is problematic. It was a reasonable
> simplifying assumption in most of CAPITAL volume I, however.)
> --
> Jim Devine / "It was the mystical dogma of Bentham and Adam Smith and
> the rest, that some of the worst of human passions would turn out to
> be all for the best. It was the mysterious doctrine that selfishness
> would do the work of unselfishness." -- G. K.Chesterton.
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