On 14/lug/06, at 03:23, Louis Kontos wrote:
You forget that the Italian player put his arm around the French
player -- the provocation was thorough. The referees should have
called a penalty for that alone.
that is normal in any football match, and that particular one was not
certainly
an heavy match from that point of view, it was quite fair in fact.
What is not normal in a football match is to see somebody using his
head to hit another player
in a way that could be lethal.
And the Italian team should now have
to account for the ugly racism among its ranks.
May be you dind't hear Zidane himself saying that the so called
provocation had nothing to do with racism but rather with his sister.
To be honest I feel that this nonsense about italian racism is quite
unjust and unfair, being italian myself and living in Italy I think I
know what I am talking about.
Don't forget that he has played many years in Italy, do you think he
is new to any provocation (both ways)? Probably he had his own
problems and we will never know what went into his mind. I think
everybody is making too much fuss of this thing. When you are playing
a world final you are clearly under stress, anybody of them was. I
wouldn't try to build a castle in thin air. He is a great player, but
everybody makes a mistake, i think it should be understood
for what it is and forgot.
Massimo
Louis
On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:00 AM, ravi wrote:
At around 10/7/06 4:55 pm, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Jim, I don't think you really understand the kind of anger Zidane
must
have felt about being called "Dirty Terrorist." You have never
experienced that, and you never will.
While I also respect the choice that James Blake, Arthur Ash, etc.
have made, I always LOVE Zidane and those like him more than them.
Well, if we are going anecdotal, then: I have been called many racist
names, recently including "terrorist hindu" [!!?!] by a woman who
felt
entitled to the very parking spot that I had just occupied (never
mess
with a Jersey-an in a mall parking lot!).
A few thoughts followed:
Could this woman really be aware of the Hindu atrocities against
Muslims
in India? Should I express to her my lack of faith in order to
correct
her impression about me? Or would she counter me with an argument
that
Hinduism has room even for atheists?
I jest, but none of these thoughts included:
Should I attack her in a violent manner?
The point:
Some punk-arse violent (as it stands) jock millionaire (apparently)
does
not represent any racist angst or experience that I or others feel
out
here in the real world (the others in the real world, me still in a
world of privilege).
But what do I know... I can only relate to the stories of someone who
lived through and was a part of a non-violent movement that sought
freedom from colonial (and at times racist) oppression.
--ravi
--
Support something better than yourself: ;-)
PeTA: http://www.peta.org/
GreenPeace: http://www.greenpeace.org/
If you have nothing better to do: http://platosbeard.org/
