On 8/22/06, Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What distinguishes humans from animals is culture.

...What happened was that with culture
the _quality_ of proto-human productive activity changed. It changed
because with culture, there was an accumulation of knowledge across
generations. Living generations could learn from the experience of dead
generations.  Labor inventions and knowledge in tools and techniques could
be passed on from on generation to the next and onward. This caused the
quality of labor, productive activity , to change, to "transition".

The key quality of primitive socalled religion is that it involves
"communications" through symbols with dead ancestors whose experiences
thereby inform the living generation. This allows from accumulation of
knowledge.

The quality of symboling - using something to represent something that it is
not - allows the transition across the death barrier, because this quality
of the symbol allows overcoming learning only by imitation. Symbolic
learning, unlike imitative learning, allows learning from people who are
dead but leave behind symbols of their living experiences.

We're almost on the same track here, but with a paradox about the
status of  what you call "symbols". The paradox is what came first,
producing symbols or comprehending them. I think Benjamin's intuition
was correct when he defined mimetic behavior as "To read what was
never written. Such reading is the most ancient: before all languages,
from the entrails, the stars or dances."

That is to say, between imitation and the symbol must lie a
transitional form that is at once BOTH imitation and symbol, medium
and message, at once. That form is rhythm.

In important respects, our notions about "theology" are anachronistic.
Theology was a response to scripture, which in turn was a collation
and codification of liturgical traditions, that were an
institutionalization of rites. "In the beginning," as Goethe has Dr.
Faust deduce, was not the word but the deed. In pre-scriptural
religious ritual, I would suggest we already have something abstracted
from a more primordial concrete behaviour: an undifferentiated
rhythmic performance that contained aspects that would only later
distill out  on the one side as labor and on the other as ecstatic
dance ritual (or proto-religion).

We need to make a great effort to resist what might be called,
cheekily, "anachropomorphism" -- the tendency to talk about
evolutionary events and processes as if they started with an idea,
proceeded to a plan, which was then implemented by a cadre of trained
officials.

--
Sandwichman

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