On 11/3/06, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Doug:
> >> I interviewed Tariq Ali the other week for my radio show, and finally
> >> got to broadcast it last night; it'll be up on my web archive today.
> >> Tariq speaks with Chavez fairly often, and says that Chavez regularly
> >> says that we are not living in a revolutionary epoch, and all we can
> >> accomplish now is a left social democratic set of reforms. "We cannot
> >> leap" beyond history, he says - and Castro reportedly agrees. This is
> >> what Chavez means when he talks about 21st century socialism.
> >>
> >> Doug

channelling Henry Ford, Mike Lebowitz writes:
> > Bunk.

doesn't it matter what "left social democratic" reforms and socialism
are defined as? The creation of democratic communities of the poor
might be counted as only a precursor of socialism, not as socialism
itself. It might be a "structural reform."

One thing that was missing from or shortchanged by both social
democratic reforms and socialist revolutions of the past exists in the
Bolivarian Revolution:  Protagonismo Popular,
<http://www.aporrea.org/poderpopular/a21266.html>.
--
Yoshie
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