Hello: Seems the topic of fascism is not going to die down! I am very late with this strand, as I had been away, & on return the bewidlering number of messages made me think it would likely simmer out. What else was there to say?
Since everyone and their auntie is offering up repetitive viewpoints, I am offering these. I think they do differ from prior offered views. Charles offers Leigh one set of definitions for fascism - from MIM. I will simply: 1) Offer another, probably earlier set: http://www.allianceml.com/CommunistLeague/COMPASSTHESESFASCISM.HTM but also: 2) point out that there is a prevalent strand that "Louis Proyect wrote: > Any way you slice it, you don't get fascism > without the threat of proletarian revolution. > That might be going on somewhere else in the > USA, but surely not in NYC. " There was some dissension to this viewpoint here, but no reference to perhaps the key refutation. That surely might be the case of Italy? Here the workers movement in Turin was well & truely crushed by the time of fascist take-over. http://www.allianceml.com/CommunistLeague/All4-fascism93.htm In passing - lest it be thought otherwise: i) I am not a supporter of the Democratic party http://www.allianceml.com/PAPER/2004/DiegoDos.html versus http://www.allianceml.com/PAPER/2004/ELECTIONS.html but ii) am sure that in some peoples minds, the DP is a 'relative' better flavour. While encouraging such illusions is (in my view) clearly wrong, bashing these people as some sort of 'class-traitor' is hardly worthwhile or sensible. Finally, just in case it is needed to state clearly in case of being misunderstood - I do not support the notion that the USA is a fascist state. If it were as someone has already pointed out, this long-winded discussion would have been somewhat shorter, for a lot of reasons! Hari Kumar
