Greetings Economists, Hi Jim, as well, On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
so how do we insult people we don't like? or whose ideas we don't like?
Doyle; Well, I guess this is a hard question. I'll begin with what is at stake. When we don't like someone, say an exploiter, or murderer, or I know the mythic anti-war protester spitting on a returning vet, or even better on the battlefield against a serious enemy, does my mouth form words like you 'dirty scum' I'm gonna shoot you in the head you low life? What really is a socialist value in that? Any sort of word related to disgust feelings, or shame feelings virtually mean one cannot see oneself connecting to them in any social way. I'm bringing these feelings up, disgust and shame as possible avenues to consider in your question. I would broaden the concept, some feelings as expressed by socialist are not socialist. So for example not just 'individuals' saying they feel disgusted by the 'enemy' (I mean serious antagonism, murdered your parents level of feelings). So a group that said disgust or shame toward an opponent violate socialist principles. And that is how far I would go in this path. That we consider the systemic meaning of the words. So what I say is that a leftist must have a discipline to honor socialist expression of feeling. Your anger, your fear, your despair, are part of your socialist character. That then what we express is not rooted in conventional sayings, like you god damn mother fucker, shit ass too, and cocksucker with a cancerous ass hole. Let's just take 'goddamn'. It represents the mentality of a religious saying. So our community must meet the challenge and put the words together to say about Bush, you boss, defiler of ignorance, Robber of people, whose breath in my face makes me rise in rage, I want into your face. I want to look deeeeply into your eyes, and thrust into you hound of hellish face, with a scream of rage how you have clustered bombed and killed hundreds of thousands. All my rage burns to be vented at your face Bush. My savage countenance to scare you, to so deeply scare you your sphincter lets loose in your underwear, and the stink of disgust I feel is not enough to hold me back from socialism and victory. I want your world to collapse. I want social change. I want so much and I will shove your barrier from in front of my way. All of these words convey anger and yet they are just an individuals rant. It is the common and shared emotions of a socialist movement that matter. Those things we want to say as a passion of what we are as human beings. Together. So when we say of the enemy, it is not their 'craziness' it's their embeddedness in a socialist matrix of feeling that I conjure and condemn with. That an 'exploiter' is a thousand more powerful of an insult that ten mentions they smell like shit, or five hundred comparisons to a 'lunatic'. It's not my disgust that hold me back from doing something real, it's my anger that puts me into action that is my socialist epithet, to insult and make my power, and our power ring out. Justice Robber! Don't ignore me, My eyes bore into you, my anger foams upon my lips, all the pain together makes me act against your world. So that's my answer. Doyle
