You're right. The standard measure of "economic growth" is real gross
domestic product. But if we use some measure of economic output such
as the Genuine Progress Indicator, which counts leisure as a good and
pollution as a cost, we get a different story.

It's also true that both increased leisure and increased pollution can
have cumulative effects.

On 11/3/06, Walt Byars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
One of the common arguments I see against policies which allegedly reduce
economic growth is to concede that such policies (redistribution, less
work, environmental) have good immediate consequences but that, since
economic growth is cumulative, the best long run outcome will come from
not hampering growth. A typical example of this argument is here (
http://catallarchy.net/blog/archives/2006/10/30/reducing-growth-now-is-bad-juju/
 )

Some on the left have even made this argument, In Recasting Egalitarianism,
Bowles and Gintis use this to justify their rule that redistributions must
be "efficiency enhancing." Now, while not necessarily right (I don't
really think that there is good reason to believe that more common forms
of redistribution
than those B&G indicate reduce growth that much, and the positive impact
of redistribution could outweigh this) at least the argument makes sense
in the context of income distribution and redistribution. There are
mathematical limits to how even or uneven the distribution of income could
get that don't apply to growth.

But what about the environment? Aren't there cumulative aspects to the
health of ecosystems? And with working less, even if we ignore
Sandwichman's arguments about less work improving productivity, there
could still be a cumulative aspect to leisure. I mean, while certainly
referring to more changes than a quantitative reduction in working time,
Marx talked about socialism removing fetters to the development of human
capacities and the relationships between humans. Couldn't the development
of human capacities and the quality of interactions be cumulative? If
people spend lots of time having fun, they will probably invent better
ways to have fun as time goes by. And couldn't the development of the
means to make the quality of work more enjoyable develop cumulatively?

Then there is what Gerschenkeron and some institutionalists stress about
economic growth not being *that* cumulative. There may be situations in
which having lower growth may improve an economy's ability to have higher
growth rates.



--
Jim Devine / "Mathematicians are like Frenchmen: whatever you say to
them, they translate it into their own language, and forthwith it
means something entirely different." -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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