On 11/6/06, David B. Shemano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think you are unnecessarily confusing issues.  For instance,
you may be right that the Supreme Court justices may decide
a case based upon prevailing political conditions, but that is a
different point than if you want to discuss how a political order
should deal with dissent, the case law is an excellent place to
start.  Furthermore, you are confusing the decisions of the
executive and legislative branches (it is a good idea to imprison
members of the Communist Party) and the judicial branch
(can the government imprison members of the Communist
Party if the Constitution provides that Congress shall make
no law respecting the freedom of speech and assembly).
The case law reflects abstract principles and concrete
application that are the product of 200 years of dialectical
argument.  You can learn a lot from the case law even
if you disagree about specific decisions.

It is certainly possible that socialists can learn much from the case
law in the USA.  But socialists first need to figure out what our
philosophy of justice in particular and political philosophy in
general is.

Marxists, beginning with Marx himself, have developed some cogent
critical analyses of how criminal justice works under this or that
capitalist state.  But, imho, Marxists have not developed even a
rudimentary idea of what system of justice is in keeping with a
society in transition from capitalism to a mode of production for
human needs and desires.

Marxism, like religion untamed by the separation of church and state,
is an illiberal philosophy.  But the dominant conception of justice --
including a notion of civil liberties -- under modernity has been a
liberal one, developed in the process of commoners' struggles to limit
the power of the sovereign (in the transition from feudalism to
capitalism in Europe and the transition from a colony to a
nation-state in America) and the process of developing means to
safeguard the rights and liberties of a minority (originally only a
minority who are in possession of means of production, later expanded
to other kinds of minority, such as racial, sexual, and other
minorities) by limiting the domination of the proletarian majority.
That Marxists have not openly embraced political liberalism and its
system of justice in particular and government in general (independent
judiciary, checks and balances, etc.) is therefore understandable.
But we have not developed any coherent alternative to it, even after
many decades of experience of socialist states and their problems.
All most of us have done is to implicitly adopt political liberalism
while making excuses for actually existing socialist states not
practicing it or blaming leaders as if the problem were merely a
matter of good or bad leadership.  That's not a convincing act, even
to me, let alone to those who are not interested in Marxism.
--
Yoshie
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