I can't continue this anymore.  I am just taking a break from my
meeting, but the link between the Fascists and the Pope is not that far
fetched considering his actions during the war.

I don't think Stalin made an alliance with the Nazis, but just bought
himself enough time to prepare for the war.  For all his faults his was
a realist.


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901

-----Original Message-----
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yoshie
Furuhashi
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] EGYPT: Islamic Democrats?

On 4/29/07, Perelman, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The US made the same sort of mistake linking with fundamentalists in
> Afghan.  It is not just the number of divisions.  Was Stalin saying he
> would link with the Pope if he had enough divisions or was he just
> dismissing the Pope?

In this case, Stalin asked rhetorical questions to dismiss the Pope,
but in other cases he made peace with all sorts of political forces
and entities, from the Nazis to FDR, and he conducted himself
similarly toward Muslims and other religious groups inside the USSR
and the actual and potential Soviet spheres of influence.

Today's liberals and leftists of the sort who are expressing interest
in the Muslim Brothers and the like, however, are obviously a little
more discriminating in their alliance than Stalin.  At the same time,
it's clear that no one would take a look at them if they are
politically insignificant.
--
Yoshie

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