Michael wrote:
Your description of me is not quite accurate.  I think "decrepit" would
be far more accurate than "aging."  My interventions have been limited
for the last two weeks because of a series of e-mail problems on campus.

Oh please, Michael. This has nothing to do with email connections.
You are famous for your laconic emails.

I had not realized that my either/or comment had been repeated so many
times.  I did not mean it to be some sort of scholarly insight but
rather a question that I have seriously considered for quite some time
-- the degree which the two forms of exploitation played in the
development of England.  I tend to go back and forth in terms of the
priority, but I really wondered why you held what seemed to be your
position of exclusivity.

I hold no position of exclusivity. This is what I believe:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch31.htm

The money capital formed by means of usury and commerce was prevented
from turning into industrial capital, in the country by the feudal
constitution, in the towns by the guild organisation. These fetters
vanished with the dissolution of feudal society, with the
expropriation and partial eviction of the country population. The new
manufactures were established at Weapons, or at inland points beyond
the control of the old municipalities and their guilds. Hence in
England an embittered struggle of the corporate towns against these
new industrial nurseries.

The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation,
enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the
beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning
of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins,
signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. These
idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of primitive accumulation.
On their heels treads the commercial war of the European nations,
with the globe for a theatre. It begins with the revolt of the
Netherlands from Spain, assumes giant dimensions in England's
Anti-Jacobin War, and is still going on in the opium wars against China, &c.


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