Nothing new there.  Used to be called social darwinism, then
socio-biology; now social molecular biology.

Same old, same old eugenics.  Pseudo-science.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Devine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Altruism: hardwired


> FWIW, there's a right-wing book by Gandolfi, Gandolfi, and Barash that
> tries to link Dawkins' selfish gene to Chicago-style neoclassical
> economics. See _Economics as an evolutionary science_: _From utility
> to fitness_ by Arthur E. Gandolfi, Anna S. Gandolfi and David P.
> Barash. New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers 2002
>
> On 5/30/07, Walt Byars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It is not "just a metaphor". That would be trivializing what has
> > > turned out to be an extremely powerful idea. Dawkins hides behind
this
> > > "just a metaphor" excuse in his preface, but is he naive enough to
> > > think that all his readers are as nuanced as he is?
> >
> > Anyone who reads any of the book can see what he is talking about.
It is
> > obvious he isn't talking about a gene which causes people to be
selfish,
> > or a gene which behaves selfishly.
> >
> > > In reality it fits
> > > in too nicely with the neo-classical rhetoric about humans as
utility
> > > maximizing individuals - he supplies a very nice and
> > > plausible-sounding utility function (the survival rate of all your
> > > genes!).
> >
> > This would only have anything to do with utility maximization if
people
> > took pleasure in the survival of their genes. If any economists did
draw
> > this conclusion, they probably based it on his actual argument and
not
> > just the title.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This would not make sense unless behavior is genetically
determined.
> > > -raghu.
> >
> > I don't know what you mean by genetically determined, but what I was
> > saying is totally independent of how much genetics influence
behavior. It
> > is simply saying that IF there were biological adaptations which
caused
> > people to be more altruistic, they may be selected for if behaving
> > altruistically increases an individual's fitness or that of their
close
> > relatives. This logic doesn't rely on the actual existence of
biological
> > adaptations which cause people to behave altruistically (I
personally
> > think such adaptations exist...I'm not really qualified to debate
this,
> > though).
> >
>
>
> --
> Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your
> own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
>

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