Let's let up on Leigh.
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:51:48PM -0400, sartesian wrote: > I didn't think Jim was applying the term "creep" to Leigh, but rather to > Leigh's employer. > > Be that as it may, Mr. Meyers self-congratulatory gloating about the > coming end of industrial society, where I guess he will beat his > keyboard into a plowshare, along with his "how many people has your > theorizing ever fed" self-righteousness, makes discussion a real waste > of time. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Rampage Across Athens > > > > This is getting far too personal. The term, "creep" should not be > applied to list > > members. > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 01:30:25PM -0700, Leigh Meyers wrote: > > > Jim asked: What is this "rational politics"? who believes in it and > > > what are its tenets? > > > > > > I responded: My employer describes part of 'rational politick' well > > > when I discuss world affairs with him. Essentially, there's nothing > he > > > can do about 3/4 million dead Iraqis, so just go on with 'business > > > (and social mores) as usual, and he LIKES IT like that. > > > > > > Jim replies: why is this creep relevant to pen-l discussions? is > there > > > anyone on this list who is like this? (David S is a conservative, > but > > > I don't think he fits this category.) If there's no-one on the list > > > who's like this, preaching against their perspectives here seems > like > > > spitting into the wind. > > > > > > > > > He's an empirical example from my 'local universe'. He's a > > > 'Libertapublican' 'creep' who also pays me for holidays even though > > > he's not required to, and allows me to take the day's bakery > leftovers > > > to the hungry and homeless (He has a guilt streak a mile wide that I > > > only bang on occasionally). > > > > > > In other words, he's as much of a 'creep' as any other > "Compassionate > > > American" who cares about their own, and screws everyone else. He's > > > just honest about it. > > > > > > He is the kind of person for whom economics matter, it is a quite > > > personal (his person) economic, and it behooves economists on the > > > 'left' to understand the *full range* of people that make up the > > > society they are economizing for, not just other list members... > > > unless there is some plan to *impose* an economic structure on their > > > society, in which case there is no point to understanding the > > > individuals view of what an alternative economy offers them > personally > > > and how they understand the world around them. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jim Devine / "if there's an original thought out there, I could > use it right now." -- Bob Dylan & Sam Shepherd. > > > > > > Ditto... > > > > > > Leigh > > > > -- > > Michael Perelman > > Economics Department > > California State University > > Chico, CA 95929 > > > > Tel. 530-898-5321 > > E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu > > michaelperelman.wordpress.com > > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com
