Who has used any of those terms here, inappropriately? Calling Duncan "Malthusian" is a wild understatement.
And to say that "selfishness" is a necessary assumption of Western Leftist theory is a remarkable distortion, a dislocation of language practiced so slickly and sickly by the dunderheads of the Reagan, monetarist, Boesky, Blackstone, Stockman, Rumsfeld axis of evil. I have no desire to debate the necessity of industrialization. That's not the issue. Class, property, the social organization of labor are the issues. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ravi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: [PEN-L] Industrial society and its discontents > On 20 Jun, 2007, at 10:51 PM, sartesian wrote: > > > > Be that as it may, Mr. Meyers self-congratulatory gloating about the > > coming end of industrial society, where I guess he will beat his > > keyboard into a plowshare... > > > > What of the opposite side? The name-calling ("Luddite", "romantic", > "Malthusian", etc) that accompanies the usual Western Leftist > dismissal of all manners of living and organisation that threaten the > necessary assumptions (industrialisation, selfishness, etc) of their > theory? It matters little how technology-addicted I am for it is a > matter of vanity (regarding self) or contempt (regarding others) to > think that their desires might differ from mine. > > --ravi >