I wrote: > > I think it's time to retire the use of the term "state capitalist" to > > describe the position of the ISO and similar groups. To those outside > > the big Trotskyist tent, it sounds like the ISO is advocating state > > capitalism, which (last time I heard) it is not.
Louis Proyect wrote: > Really? So how else would they describe Cuba? I think you quoted the wrong part of my missive. But it is clear that the ISO doesn't advocate state capitalism. It's true that they likely describe Cuba as being "state capitalist" (and I disagree, BTW). But the ISO folks don't advocate establishing that system. Anyway, it's a mistake to endlessly recycle the same jargon. The left is in trouble and we need to be more creative not only in our thinking but our language. well, I guess it's better that referring to the "infantile petty-bourgeois revisionist renegades of the ISO." -- Jim Devine / "In the years since the phrase became a cliché, I have received any number of compliments for my supposed ability to 'think outside the box.' Actually, it has been a struggle for me to perceive just what these 'boxes' were — why they were there, why other people regarded them as important, where their borderlines might be, how to live safely within and without them." -- Tim Page (THE NEW YORKER, August 20, 2007).
