Please back up your abstractions with concrete examples-- of let's say a
lefty dominated university not hiring a professor solely on the basis of
his/her views of Israel.

We certainly have examples of attacks, smearing, lies about professors
simply based on their oppositions to Israel's policies-- and not because
the professors are advocating wiping the  Israeli's off the map.

As for the Nazi analogy-- when a state practices collective punishment
in response to acts of resistance-- when it enforces deprivation and
immiseration on another people because of their claims to property from
which they've been expelled-- well if the foo shits wear  it-- those are
things Nazi's practiced.

As I told my beloved orthodox sister (lives in Houston, married to a
doctor, keeps kosher, sheds a tear and says a prayer every night for the
poor beleaguered Israelis), if Hitler were still around, the Israelis
would be selling him ovens.

Let me ask you something, David, sarcastically and flamingly, is your
grasp of reality really this tenuous, or are you putting us on?


----- Original Message -----
From: "David B. Shemano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] U. of Michigan pressured to halt publication of
Joel Kovel book


> Michael Perelman writes:
>
> >> David, as a libertarian, I would expect you of all people to agree
that people should
> >> not coerce others to prevent his views from being articulated.
Should people have
> >> thr right to prevent others from saying anything good about Israel?
>
> Of course they should.  I can say that because I believe in the
state/private distinction and support the 1st Amendment as a restriction
on state action but not private action.  I support the right of a Lefty
dominated university department to decide not to hire a pro-Israel
professor, and I support the right of pro-Israel supporters to make the
decision public and try and convince alumni to withhold money from the
university.   Of course, the fact that I support somebody's right to say
something doesn't mean I support them saying it.
>
> I did want to note the irony (if that's the right word) of Doug
Henwood complaining when anti-Israel critics are accused of being Nazis,
and Jim Devine contemporaneously calling Israel  "one of the worst kinds
of ethnic nationalist regimes currently on earth," which I think a
reasonable reader would interpret as a Nazi analogy.  So apparently it
is unfair rhetoric for somebody to call your side Nazis, but okay
rhetoric to call the other side Nazis, and if anybody calls you a Nazi
for calling them a Nazi, that proves they are a Nazi.
>
> David Shemano
>

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