Joel, have you written about this.  I would like to learn more.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 07:04:53PM -0400, joel blau wrote:
> One of the best indices of how the New Deal both addressed and defused
> the mass movements of the 1930s is the way that its social welfare
> programs turned people into "clients," rather than full-fledged
> "citizens." Although people who were poor (ADC), unemployed (UIB), or
> old (Social Security) were now enfranchised in this newly constituted
> welfare state,  their status as "clients"
> marked them as subordinate and retained a distinct whiff of welfare as
> little more than organized state charity.
>
> Joel Blau
>
> Michael Nuwer wrote:
> > Jim Devine wrote:
> >> On 10/9/07, Michael Nuwer
> >> <nuwermj-/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> In my view it was not the industrial capitalist who understood the
> >>> relationship between mass production, high wages and mass
> >>> consumption. I
> >>> think it was the new deal state, in the 1930s, that pushed this piece
> >>> onto capital.
> >>
> >> and it was the Bonus March and a lot of other mass struggles (sit-down
> >> strikes, etc.) that pushed the New Deal state to do anything it did
> >> that was worthwhile.
> >
> > I don't disagree, but I do wish to emphasis that the New Deal state did
> > not implement or adopt the demands of the mass struggles. It implemented
> > something different.
> >
> > The specific issue that I'm emphasizing in this thread is that these
> > struggles were not only, or primarily, demanding a share of the benefits
> > from a mass production economy. Significant parts of the labor force
> > were not yet "prisoners of the America dream," to borrow a phrase from
> > Mike Davis.
> >
> > Throughout the period from 1880 to the 1930s important parts of the
> > working class struggled for something which never emerged. And, for
> > sure, that struggle was not for a piece of the modern mass consumption
> > pie.
> >
> > It was only after labor's alternative (trade-union autonomy) was
> > closed-off by the courts and statute that industrial pluralism could,
> > and did, emerge. American capital was forced to make compromises to
> > labor under this newly emerging system, but these compromises in no way
> > threatened the primary prerogative to manage the production process or
> > to determine the social division of labor.
> >

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