The Chinese working class is growing by leaps and
bounds and is confident that eventually it will
achieve the American dream with Chinese
characteristics.


Cheers, Ken Hanly



--- Shane Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:12 PM, ken hanly wrote:
>
> >
> >   Neither Vietnam China nor Venezuela are
> socialist.
> > Socialism  involves the socialisation of the means
> of
> > production, distribution, and exchange, and
> production
> > based on need not profit.
> >    None of those countries have achieved this.
> Both
> > Vietnam and China have been moving away from such
> a
> > system through extensive privatisation and
> changing
> > toward a market system based on profit and
> integrating
> > into the global capitalist market. They also both
> have
> > increasing foreign investment. Venezuela at best
> is
> > moving towards a socialist system. What follows
> > is short description of China's change towards
> > capitalism. What is wrong with it?
> >
> > http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-146354456.html
> >
> > The Irreversible Emergence of a Capitalist System
>
>
> What is wrong with it is that it describes the
> emergence and flourishing
> of Chinese capitalism in its present form as a
> movement *away from*
> socialism.  It is the opposite--a movement from a
> backward bureaucratic
> state capitalism, which reflected the semi-feudal
> and dependent colonial
> structures inherited by the CCP, towards a modern,
> globalized capitalism
> in which the proletariat is growing by leaps and
> bounds, in numbers,
> strength, and confidence.  It is then, within the
> capitalist mode of
> production, an enormous step *toward* [the
> possibility of] socialism.
>
> Shane Mage
>
> "Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and
> does not consent to
> be called Zeus."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos
>


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