Marcus Ranum, if I recall correctly, has an outstanding reward for anyone
with proof that fw-1 was ever backdoored by the Israeli's, it has never
bee collected nor has any evidence of such a backdoor ever really been
offered up.  It remains an unsubstantiated rumor, perhaps initiated by
those competing with fw-1, years back.  An open backkdoor should be able
to be gleened from port mapping techniques, the port has to be openly
accesible for it to be used, yes?  A review/audit of the code for the
product might further provide evidence, but, would require much more time
as well as skill level <i.e. one would need to know C or C++ quite well,
or whatever code base the application./device was written in>  An
examination of theunderlying OS, before and after install, if this is not
a drop and place and configure blackboox device might prove useful also.
Most of the blackbox designs might prove hard to thouroughly audit from an
OS/source perspective as they owner/writers might not be too willing to
provide particulars of their design.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> I have never seen anything like this on the list so if it does not make it through I 
>understand. I have a very large client right now who is paying for
> a company wide (offices in 16 countries with 26 differant networks) audit
> of their security infrastructure. Nothing really out of the ordinary here.
> 
> What is differant for us at least is this client has asked us to review their
> security products from a national security point of view. The case here is that
> they run or are evaluating several products from Israel and one from South Korea and 
>want us to evalute how likely it is that a sovereign state (in this
> case Israel or South Korea) may have manipulated these products in order to gain
> access to them remotely for their intel services.
> 
> I remember reading years ago discussions like this about Firewall-1 and for the most 
>part nothing of interest ever came from it. Does anyone have any evidence which can 
>be publicly cited that something like this has ever happened? And does anyone here 
>have any idea how we would go about performing a review like this without looking 
>like conspiracy theorists?
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