Since some of these other retail products are being thrown around, I will
throw PATROL Visualis[1][2] out there as well. I don't think that NNM does a
very good job of Layer 2 topology discovery, but I know that Visualis does.
It's been a while since I looked at Spectrum, so I can't speak to that. As
mentioned though, none of the retail products fall into the category I would
call "inexpensive", and most bring topology to the table as a component of
their functionality. Thanks.

Wes Noonan, MCSE/CCNA/CCDA/NNCSS/Security+
Senior QA Rep.
BMC Software, Inc.
(713) 918-2412
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bmc.com

[1] As the sig would imply, I work for BMC Software, Inc. and I happen to
work on our network management platforms which would include PATROL
Visualis.
[2]http://www.bmc.com/products/proddocview/0,2832,19052_19426_26272_8024,00.
html (url will wrap)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Javier Fernandez-Sanguino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 02:49
> To: Mark Squire
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Network Mapping/Discovery
> 
> Mark Squire wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I thought Cheops would do this, but it doesn't do as well as I thought.
> > I want to find out what computers are connected to which switches.  I
> > don't care if it tells me what type of switch it is, but accurately tell
> > me what IP addresses are hanging off it.  Is there a mapping software
> > out there that will discover this stuff?
> 
> Yes. The usual network management software such as HP Openview's Network
> Node Manager, Aprisma's Spectrum. Quite expensive, though. I have not
> used Nagios [1] for network discovery in this respect but it just might
> have a plugin to represent a network in the way you require. Nedi [2],
> seems to do just this (check out the 'simulation' in the link below) but
> I have not tested in a pen-test environment yet (it probably needs the
> SNMP communities to retrieve the information from switches and routers)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Javi
> 
> [1] www.nagios.org
> [2] http://nedi.web.psi.ch/
> 
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