Rick Fisk said:
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 19:09 +0100, Salve J Nilsen wrote:
Yes, I'd like to avoid ad hominem attacks. This is a basic part of
making any negative-feedback service into a respectable one.
You appear to be contradicting yourself here. There's no need for a hall
of shame. As somebody has already pointed out, all one needs is for the
list to be comprehensive, all-inclusive and paginated.
Yes, a comprehensive, all-inclusive and paginated list would be a good
solution. Especially if users can reverse the list and filter it by CPAN
ID. :)
[snip]
Your belief that the list is "motivational" is purely conjecture on your
part. If you have some qualitative measure which tends to support the
idea, I'd find it interesting.
Well. I'm basing my argument mostly on personal experience. I've also met
several people who appreciate getting relevant negative feedback on their
work. I've also met people who don't like negative feedback at all, not
seldom accompanied by a "healthy-sized" sense of self. I'd like to see
more of the former. :-/
In another email on the subject, you suggested "I'd like to see a world
that treats volunteers with respect, but doesn't deny them negative
feedback".
Classifying some module as being lower on the list of 'kwalitee' is in
fact positive feedback if no negative characterizations are added. This
is where I think there is some confusion. "Shame" and intending to heap
it on a specific set of developers is definitely negative. A score is
not negative. It is merely a score.
Good points.
I may have realized something now - that the word "Shame" is a very strong
and heavy-handed word, on the same level as Quisling and Traitor. Is this
correct? Sorry to ask this question, English is my second language, and
although we have the same word in Norwegian - "skam", it's hardly a word
we put much weight and seriousness into. When we say "skam deg!" ("Shame
on you!") we do it to kids who have done something nasty (e.g. crapping on
the lawn instead of in the potty.)
- Salve
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