> I think this area of 5.8 whilst better than 5.6 may still need some clarification > before the average user can understand it easily.
Are you using 5.8.0 or 5.8.1? From your description I would guess .0. I would suggest 1, there the "automatic" conversion was disabled, the UTF8 locale no more confuses things. -- Jarkko Hietaniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.iki.fi/jhi/ "There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'." -- Jack Cohen
